Final
STAFF SUMMARY OF MEETING

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

Date:01/23/2012
ATTENDANCE
Time:02:02 PM to 05:03 PM
Hamner
X
Holbert
X
Place:HCR 0112
Joshi
X
Kerr A.
X
This Meeting was called to order by
Murray
X
Representative Massey
Peniston
X
Ramirez
X
This Report was prepared by
Schafer S.
*
Kristen Johnson
Solano
X
Summers
X
Todd
X
Beezley
X
Massey
X
X = Present, E = Excused, A = Absent, * = Present after roll call
Bills Addressed: Action Taken:
HJR12-1004
Fiscal Analyst Introductions
Briefing by the State Board of Land Commissioners
Review of Budget/Strategic Plan by CDE
Review of Budget/Strategic Plan by DHE
Referred to the Committee of the Whole
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02:02 PM -- HJR 12-1004

Representative Massey welcomed the committee members and the audience to the meeting and announced changes to the committee's agenda for the day. He invited Representative A. Kerr to begin the meeting with a tribute. Representative A. Kerr read aloud a tribute to Amanda Paterino from the Colorado State House of Representatives for her hard work and volunteerism as a member of the Colorado Youth Advisory Council (COYAC).


02:05 PM


Representative Massey and Representative A. Kerr, co-sponsors, presented House Joint Resolution 12-1004, concerning teen suicide prevention in Colorado. They stated that the resolution was brought on the request of COYAC. Representative Massey provided background on the issue of teen suicide in Colorado, stating that teen suicide rates are higher in Colorado than in other parts of the country. He added that one in five Colorado teens have contemplated suicide in the last year. He added that it is paramount that the state pay attention to this issue and identify ways to intervene.


02:08 PM

Representative A. Kerr provided a brief background of COYAC, stating that the group is a formal mechanism used to notify the Colorado state legislature of matters that are important to youth in Colorado. Several handouts were provided to the members of the committee, including: an analysis of the resolution, the executive summary from the Annual Youth Survey administered by COYAC, an article from the Denver Post concerning COYAC and its role, and literature about the Second Wind Fund, Inc. (Attachments A through D).

HseEd0123AttachA.pdf HseEd0123AttachB.pdf

HseEd0123AttachC.pdf HseEd0123AttachD.pdf

02:13 PM -- Janet Chen, COYAC, provided background on what it is like to be a member of COYAC. She stated that she believes teens are more likely to become aware of and involved with policy issues when they know that they have peers who are representing them in front of state leaders. She discussed the results of the Annual Youth Survey which found that teen suicide is an issue of great concern among teens in Colorado. She gave an example of a personal experience she had with a friend who was having suicidal thoughts. She stated that health education courses taught in schools typically do not cover teen suicide in detail.

Representative Summers asked about the teacher's response to hearing about a student who was having suicidal thoughts. Ms. Chen responded that the teacher did not know how to respond. Representative Peniston asked what Ms. Chen says when people tell her that this issue should not be talked about. Ms. Chen responded that it is intervention that often keeps people from carrying out the act of suicide and that intervention is needed in order to mitigate the issue.

02:18 PM --
Sean Weller, Vice President, COYAC, gave background on his experience of having a brother who is depressed and struggles with suicidal thoughts. He stated that the resolution encourages teachers to learn what steps they can take to help prevent teen suicide. He stated that teachers are close to kids and can make a huge impact on those pupils who may be struggling from depression. He stated that the resolution also establishes a working group that will look at creating policy to solve the issue of teen suicide. He added that the group will work to identify what is really causing these kids to feel suicidal in the first place.

Representative Todd asked about mental health issues and if there is a venue other than school that a student today can go to in order to develop skills to help their peers who may be suffering. Mr. Weller responded that he hopes the working group can come up with something to help students help their peers. He added that part of that might be to look at the health education curriculum being taught in schools. Representative Todd followed up by saying that students often feel more comfortable sharing these thoughts with their friends. Mr. Weller responded that the goal is to give teachers the ability to identify the possible signs before the student even talks about it; to allow the teacher to work with a student in a discreet manner through curriculum planning, greater attention, and other methods. He added that part of the resolution is to accommodate the national suicide prevention week.

Representative Massey noted that training is available for faculty so that teachers do know how to deal with these situations.

Representative Ramirez gave background of his experience in his high school, which had a huge suicide problem. He talked about the Believe It Or Not I Care (BIONIC) program that was implemented by the student body at his school.


02:33 PM

Representative Schafer described her own experience with suicide in her family. She asked if the students had heard of the Safe2Tell hotline. Ms. Brenna Christensen, COYAC, responded that her high school has a Safe2Tell hotline, but that students seem to view the hotline as a joke and still do not feel comfortable sharing with the person at the hotline. She stated that the reason they are focusing on teachers is because teachers are in a position of authority and have a better opportunity to recognize warning signs and intervene. Mr. Weller added that when calling a hotline, it is not a person that you know, but with teachers, the student knows them and feels more comfortable confiding in them.

Representative Peniston commented about the national Yellow Ribbon Teen Suicide Prevention organization.

Representative Holbert asked what it is like to be a teenager today. Ms. Christensen responded that it is important to have personal interactions. She said that she knows of several of her friends who are suffering from depression. She discussed the depression screening program that is in place at her high school.

02:42 PM --
Ms. Christensen stated that a large part of the resolution's intent is to relieve teachers by helping them to understand the signs that are present before anything bad happens. She stated that a suicide can haunt teachers because they feel that they should have done more, but they are not being educated on how to respond correctly. She added that when kids are depressed, they don't really understand what is happening to them, they just feel sad and don't know how to solve the problem.

02:45 PM --
Thomas Tarler, former COYAC member, came to the table to discuss the resolution. Mr. Tarler provided background of his own experience with debilitating depression. He stated that depression paralyzes the person and causes them to withdraw. He stated that when someone is depressed, they don't want to interact with anyone and they don't even have the energy to interact with others. Mr. Tarler referenced the survey information provided in the handout. He described the data collection and analysis method used by the survey. He stated that nearly 100 percent of respondents had indicated in the survey that they are somewhat to very concerned about the issue of teen suicide.

Representative Summers commented that teen suicide really affects everyone. Mr. Tarler added that teen suicide affects nearly every aspect of what the education committees are concerned about.

02:55 PM --
Gage Clispe, student at the University of Denver, gave background of his experience in high school when a close friend of his took her own life. He added that this is an issue that needs to be talked about daily.

03:04 PM --
Mark Shively, parent, came to the table to share his experience with the loss of his daughter to suicide. He stated that death from teen suicide is preventable and we need to realize that we can do something for teens that may be headed down that path. He cited steps that need to be taken: raise awareness; eliminate the stigma surrounding the issue; make changes in schools; provide training in schools. He added that we need to focus on the ounce of prevention and that the resolution takes good steps in the right direction.

03:09 PM --
Jeff Lamontagne, co-founder, The Second Wind Fund, provided background on his nine years of experience in working with suicide prevention. He stated that 95 percent of the cases received by The Second Wind Fund were referred from schools. He stated that Colorado has consistently ranked higher in suicide rates than many other states. He stated that evidence shows that half of youth, by the age of 20, deal with thoughts of suicide and that this problem cuts across all demographics. He stated that this is an issue that parents need to speak with their children about and that everything must be done to ensure that parents are empowered and educated to deal with this issue. He added that this is not a parent-only issue, but that schools can add valuable resources to help prevent teen suicide, if they are trained to respond. Finally, he stated that preventing one suicide will help prevent multiple suicides from occurring. Mr. Lamontagne responded to questions from the committee. He noted that the common denominator between suicides is that the person feels isolated and cut off from something that they value greatly. He added that suicide prevention starts by creating bonds and making sure that every person feels loved.
BILL:HJR 12-1004
TIME: 03:25:14 PM
MOVED:Massey
MOTION:Move to refer HJR12-1004 to the full House. The motion passed on a vote of 13-0.
SECONDED:Kerr A.
VOTE
Hamner
Yes
Holbert
Yes
Joshi
Yes
Kerr A.
Yes
Murray
Yes
Peniston
Yes
Ramirez
Yes
Schafer S.
Yes
Solano
Yes
Summers
Yes
Todd
Yes
Beezley
Yes
Massey
Yes
Final YES: 13 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS


03:27 PM -- Fiscal Analyst Introductions

Josh Abram, Senior Fiscal Analyst, Legislative Council Staff, came to the table to introduce the fiscal note analysts who work on education-related bills and to provide a review of fiscal note issues. Mr. Abram introduced Todd Herreid, Fiscal Director, Marc Carey, Senior Fiscal Specialist, and Jon Senft, Fiscal Analyst, Legislative Council Staff, to the members of the committee. Mr. Abram provided a handout explaining two main provisions of House Bill 11-1277 (Attachment E). Mr. Abram explained that the bill allows school districts and Boards of Cooperative Educational Services (BOCES) to submit fiscal impact summaries for any bill imposing a new mandate or an increase in the level of services required under current law for K-12 education. He said that the fiscal impact summaries provided by school districts and BOCES will be made available, unedited and unrevised, on the Legislative Council website at: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CGA-LegislativeCouncil/CLC/1251611536778. The second provision he discussed allows the Colorado Department of Education (CDE) to solicit information from districts and BOCES on the fiscal impact of proposed K-12 bills when it responds to requests for fiscal impact analysis from the Legislative Council Staff. He explained that the information solicited by CDE will be considered by Legislative Council Staff fiscal analysts as they prepare the official fiscal note for a bill.

HseEd0123AttachE.pdf


03:35 PM -- Briefing by State Board of Land Commissioners Pursuant to Joint Rule 25

Bob Randall, Deputy Director of the Colorado Department of Natural Resources, and Bill Ryan, Director of the Colorado State Land Board, came to the table to brief the committee, pursuant to Joint Rule 25. They provided a number of handouts to the committee, including information about the land board, the Department of Natural Resources FY 2012-13 strategic plan, the FY 2010-11 investment and development fund report, the FY 2010-11 income and inventory report, and the FY 2010-11 transaction report (Attachments F through J).

HseEd0123AttachF.pdf HseEd0123AttachG.pdf

HseEd0123AttachH.pdf HseEd0123AttachI.pdf

HseEd0123AttachJ.pdf

Mr. Randall provided background on the Department of Natural Resources, which is a diverse and decentralized department with eight divisions that oversee many things including: oil and gas development, mining, water rights administration, land and mineral assets, and dam safety inspections, in the state. He stated that he hopes the additional reporting to the education committees will help raise awareness surrounding the work of the State Land Board.


03:37 PM

Mr. Ryan provided information about the history of the State Land Board, which is a perpetual, intergenerational public trust that supports public schools and public institutions. He stated that the board is the second largest landowner in the state, with 2.8 million surface acres and 4.0 million acres of mineral estate. He described the board's dual mission: to produce a reasonable and consistent income for the trusts, and to provide sound stewardship of the assets of the trusts. Mr. Ryan explained that the board's operations are funded from operations - not state moneys - and that trust lands are held by the state for a specific purpose and are not open to public access without authorization. Mr. Ryan discussed the State Land Board's revenue and noted that fiscal year 2010-11's revenue was $123 million, a record amount due to the Niobrara oil development.

Mr. Ryan responded to questions from the committee related to the conversion of lands into commercial properties.


03:47 PM

Mr. Ryan continued by discussing the impact that the State Land Board has on education. He stated that revenues are used for two programs: the Building Excellent Schools Today (BEST) program and the School Finance Act. He provided information on the debt service obligation under BEST, which is currently $29 million. He also discussed the trust fund revenues that flow into the School Finance Act, which has provided about $130 million over the past 3.5 years to help close K-12 budget shortfalls. He also noted that, along with school trust lands, the public school permanent fund is a part of the corpus of the intergenerational trust. He said that the balance of the permanent fund is currently $600 million, and has not grown in the past three years.

Mr. Ryan responded to questions from the committee concerning local school districts' responsibilities under BEST.

The committee discussed the availability of natural resources such as oil. Mr. Ryan responded that the lands are rented out in a very strategic way.


04:00 PM

Mr. Randall referred the committee to the relevant portions of the Department of Natural Resources strategic plan (Attachment G) and discussed the State Land Board's goals and performance measures.


04:03 PM

Representative Massey invited Ted Hughes, BEST Director at the Colorado Department of Education, to come to the table to respond to committee questions about the BEST program. The committee discussed the funding of the BEST program and school district bonding and indebtedness requirements. Mr. Hughes directed the committee to the BEST program's webpage for more information: http://www.cde.state.co.us/cdefinance/CapConstBEST.htm.

04:09 PM -- Review of Budget/Strategic Plan by CDE

Diana Sirko, Deputy Commissioner of Education, Jeff Blanford, Chief Financial Officer, and Jill Hawley, Chief of Staff and Strategy, Colorado Department of Education (CDE), came to the table to provide a brief review of CDE's FY 2012-13 budget request and strategic plan. They provided several handouts to the committee (Attachments K through N) including: a side-by-side comparison of the State Board of Education's and Governor's budget requests; a summary of CDE's budget decision items; a summary of the department's goals, objectives, and strategies; a chart of funding options regarding assessments; and a table of state assessment data.

HseEd0123AttachK.pdf HseEd0123AttachL.pdf

HseEd0123AttachM.pdf HseEd0123AttachN.pdf

Mr. Blanford explained the items in the side-by-side budget request comparison handout (Attachment K). He stated that because the State Board of Education (SBE) is comprised of elected board members, the Joint Budget Committee (JBC) entertains budget requests directly from the SBE when there is a difference of opinion between the Governor's budget request and the SBE's budget request.

The committee asked if there are ongoing conversations between SBE and the Governor's Office to come to an agreement on the differences in the budget requests. The committee also asked how Race to the Top moneys are being spent. Ms. Hawley responded to the committee's question about Race to the Top, saying that some of the funding is going toward implementation of teacher effectiveness. She stated that Race to the Top finding will go towards the design portion of teacher effectiveness and that the Governor's request is complementary to this money and will allow for the heavy implementation of teacher effectiveness, on the ground training, and support. Ms. Hawley discussed the way that the Race to the Top Funds are allocated between districts, noting that about 148 school districts in Colorado are receiving $20,000 or less, but conversations are occurring about how districts can pool their funds with their BOCES. She added that Race to the Top moneys can be used for educator effectiveness, implementing new standards, and increasing access to science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) content.

The committee asked about the new state assessment tool that is being developed by CDE. Dr. Sirko responded and referred the committee to a handout which outlines the options regarding assessment funding (Attachment M). Committee discussion with Dr. Sirko about the content and cost of the new state assessment ensued. Dr. Sirko responded to questions from the committee and noted that Colorado's state assessment has not been updated in 16 years and is the oldest assessment being administered in the U.S.
04:44 PM -- Review of Budget/Strategic Plan by DHE

Chad Marturano, Director of Legislative Affairs, and Mark Cavanaugh, Chief Financial Officer, Colorado Department of Higher Education (DHE), came to the table to provide a brief review of DHE's FY 2012-13 budget request and strategic plan. They provided two handouts to the members of the committee: a letter from the governing boards and DHE's strategic plan (Attachments O and P). Mr. Cavanaugh stated that originally the budget request included a $61 million reduction for FY 2012-13; however, that has been amended by the Governor by withdrawing the request to reduce financial aid by about $30 million. Mr. Marturano noted that the funding request for the higher education system for FY 2012-13 is $489 million, down from the current fiscal year funding level of $519 million, and less than the funding level in FY 2005-06 which was $555 million.

HseEd0123AttachO.pdf HseEd0123AttachP.pdf

Mr. Cavanaugh responded to questions from the committee about enrollment, tuition costs to students, and efficiency.


04:55 PM -- Review of Budget/Strategic Plan by History Colorado

Edward Nichols, President and Chief Executive Officer, History Colorado, came to the table to provide a brief update on History Colorado's budget request. He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment Q). Mr. Nichols responded to questions from the committee about the types of exhibits that will be housed in the new History Colorado museum.

HseEd0123AttachQ.pdf

05:02 PM

Representative Massey made closing remarks. The committee adjourned.