House Committee on Appropriations (05/10/2010)

Final
STAFF SUMMARY OF MEETING

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

Date:	05/10/2010	ATTENDANCE

Time:	01:52 PM to 02:49 PM	Fischer	X
		Gardner B.	*
Place:	LSB A	Hullinghorst	X
		Judd	X
		Kefalas	X
		Kerr J.	X
		Lambert	X
		Pace	X
		Riesberg	X
		Sonnenberg	X
		Vaad	X
		Ferrandino	X
		Pommer	X

		X = Present E = Excused A = Absent *Present after roll call

Bills Addressed:		Action Taken:
SB10-195 SB10-161 SB10-167 SB10-191 SB10-192 SB10-198 SB10-203 SB10-202		Referred to the Committee of the Whole Amended and Referred to the Committee of the Whole Referred to the Committee of the Whole Amended and Referred to the Committee of the Whole Referred to the Committee of the Whole Referred to the Committee of the Whole Referred to the Committee of the Whole Referred to the Committee of the Whole

01:52 PM -- Senate Bill 10-195


BILL:	SB10-195
TIME:	01:53:09 PM
MOVED:	Pommer
MOTION:	COW
SECONDED:	Riesberg
		VOTE
	Fischer	Yes
	Gardner B.	Excused
	Hullinghorst	Yes
	Judd	Yes
	Kefalas	Yes
	Kerr J.	No
	Lambert	No
	Pace	Yes
	Riesberg	Yes
	Sonnenberg	No
	Vaad	No
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	Yes

Final YES: 8 NO: 4 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS

01:54 PM -- Senate Bill 10-161


BILL:	SB10-161
TIME:	01:54:20 PM
MOVED:	Sonnenberg
MOTION:	J.001
SECONDED:	Riesberg
		VOTE
	Fischer
	Gardner B.	Excused
	Hullinghorst
	Judd
	Kefalas
	Kerr J.
	Lambert
	Pace
	Riesberg
	Sonnenberg
	Vaad
	Ferrandino
	Pommer

Not Final YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection


BILL:	SB10-161
TIME:	01:54:31 PM
MOVED:	Sonnenberg
MOTION:	COW as amended
SECONDED:	Kerr J.
		VOTE
	Fischer	No
	Gardner B.	Excused
	Hullinghorst	No
	Judd	Yes
	Kefalas	Yes
	Kerr J.	Yes
	Lambert	Yes
	Pace	Yes
	Riesberg	Yes
	Sonnenberg	Yes
	Vaad	Yes
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	No

Final YES: 9 NO: 3 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS

01:56 PM -- Senate Bill 10-167


BILL:	SB10-167
TIME:	01:56:38 PM
MOVED:	Riesberg
MOTION:	COW
SECONDED:	Fischer
		VOTE
	Fischer	Yes
	Gardner B.	No
	Hullinghorst	Yes
	Judd	Yes
	Kefalas	Yes
	Kerr J.	No
	Lambert	No
	Pace	Yes
	Riesberg	Yes
	Sonnenberg	No
	Vaad	No
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	Yes

Final YES: 8 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS

Rep. Kerr J. expressed concerns with the bill.
Rep. Lambert asked questions of the sponsor.
Rep. Riesberg responded to Rep. Lambert's questions.
Rep. Gardner B. expressed concerns with the bill.

02:01 PM -- Senate Bill 10-191

Rep. Scanlan provided an overview of the bill.

Rep. Hullinghorst expressed concerns with the minimal costs identified by the fiscal note and asked if someone could speak to how these costs were identified.

Rep. Ferrandino asked if the Department could speak to costs identified in the bill, specifically the resource bank.

Rep. Pommer expressed concerns with the solvency of the SEF, revenue shortfalls for districts, scarcity of resources, depleted state aid for K-12 and asked if the sponsor was aware of these issues and how districts will be able to implement the provisions of the bill.

Rep. Scanlan responded to the Chair's questions.

Rep. Pommer provided further commentary.

Rep. Murray provided further details about the bill related to its timeline.

2:11 -- Rich Wenning, Assoc. Commissioner at CDE, provided testimony in response to Rep. Ferrandino's questions. Mr. Wenning indicated that in SB 10-191 is to identify resources to districts. The other bill (H.B. 10-1430) provides the actual resources to districts.

Rep. Pommer asked further questions of the witness related to scarce resources at the Department.

Mr. Wenning provided the Committee further clarification of the bill's funding mechanism.

Rep. Pommer expressed further concern with the bill and its impact to districts.

Rep. Pace discussed issues related to the bill and funding and testing K-12 education, specifically the evaluation of teachers that teach subjects that are not measured by CSAP.

Rep. Scanlan and Rep. Murray responded to Rep. Pace's questions.

Rep. Pace provided further commentary about needing to assess teachers whom teach subject areas not currently evaluated by CSAP.

Mr. Wenning provided further details related to costs. He provided an overview of current law and charges of the Department related to CSAP. He expressed that this bill builds on current law.

Rep. Pommer interjected a question to clarify Mr. Wenning's questions. Mr. Wenning answered this question.

Rep. Pommer then indicated that it was his understanding that the bill will cost $80 million based on discussions with Department leadership. How is the Department planning on funding this aspect in concert with further costs driven by this bill.

Mr. Wenning provided additional details related to how costs will be funded, specifically through federal funding that will become available with the passage of legislation such as what is currently being weighed.

Rep. Judd provided further commentary about state funding of assessments and other K-12 funding.

Mr. Wenning asserted that this bill invests in student learning. It puts in place additional structure for other endeavors being pursued by the state. Further, the bill includes a "fail safe" funding provision to ensure that the costs of the bill are covered no matter what the revenue outlook might reflect.

Rep. Judd provided further details about his perspective on funding K-12. He indicated that he was aware of certain grants being received, including those from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. He also indicated that he would be interested in seeing the work being done related to CAP4K and other initiatives to complete before "making that jump."

Mr. Wenning responded to Rep. Judd's inquiry and defended the Department's position and benefits of the bill.

Rep. Hullinghorst indicated that she was aware of how assessments are developed and models that are applied. She asked the Mr. Wenning asked if there was baseline information to help provide guidance related to the development of assessments.

Mr. Wenning recalled that the Teacher Identifier bill passed last year provides a foundation to take a look at the educator level and tie to the student level of data specificity.

Rep. Pommer provided commentary related to the Department's funding.


BILL:	SB10-191
TIME:	02:34:14 PM
MOVED:	Ferrandino
MOTION:	L.140
SECONDED:	Lambert
		VOTE
	Fischer
	Gardner B.
	Hullinghorst
	Judd
	Kefalas
	Kerr J.
	Lambert
	Pace
	Riesberg
	Sonnenberg
	Vaad
	Ferrandino
	Pommer

Not Final YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection

Rep. Riesberg asked if there is potential for additional federal grants, other than Race to the Top.
Mr. Wenning indicated that R2T was the primary and that a Teacher Incentives Grant program could also be.


BILL:	SB10-191
TIME:	02:36:20 PM
MOVED:	Riesberg
MOTION:	L.140
SECONDED:	Lambert
		VOTE
	Fischer	No
	Gardner B.	Yes
	Hullinghorst	No
	Judd	Yes
	Kefalas	Yes
	Kerr J.	Yes
	Lambert	Yes
	Pace	No
	Riesberg	No
	Sonnenberg	Yes
	Vaad	Yes
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	No

Not Final YES: 8 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS


BILL:	SB10-191
TIME:	02:37:11 PM
MOVED:	Gardner B.
MOTION:	COW as amended
SECONDED:	Kerr J.
		VOTE
	Fischer	No
	Gardner B.	Yes
	Hullinghorst	No
	Judd	No
	Kefalas	No
	Kerr J.	Yes
	Lambert	Yes
	Pace	No
	Riesberg	Yes
	Sonnenberg	Yes
	Vaad	Yes
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	No

Final YES: 7 NO: 6 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS

Rep. Judd expressed that he is concerned with the solvency of the SEF.
Rep. Ferrandino expressed that he has strong reservations with the bill and further expressed his own personal experiences within the education system. He also discussed issues with funding in the state.
Rep. Pommer provided further issues with the education system. He expressed concerns with local funding issues and the State's ability to cover K-12 expenditures and further commentary about the steps taken by the State so far and what may lie ahead as well as other condolences related to state funding of K-12 education.

02:44 PM -- Senate Bill 10-192


BILL:	SB10-192
TIME:	02:44:58 PM
MOVED:	Sonnenberg
MOTION:	COW
SECONDED:	Kerr J.
		VOTE
	Fischer	No
	Gardner B.	Yes
	Hullinghorst	Yes
	Judd	Yes
	Kefalas	No
	Kerr J.	Yes
	Lambert	Yes
	Pace	No
	Riesberg	Yes
	Sonnenberg	Yes
	Vaad	Yes
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	Yes

Final YES: 10 NO: 3 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS

02:45 PM -- Senate Bill 10-198


BILL:	SB10-198
TIME:	02:45:58 PM
MOVED:	Lambert
MOTION:	COW
SECONDED:	Hullinghorst
		VOTE
	Fischer	Yes
	Gardner B.	Yes
	Hullinghorst	Yes
	Judd	No
	Kefalas	Yes
	Kerr J.	Yes
	Lambert	Yes
	Pace	Yes
	Riesberg	No
	Sonnenberg	Yes
	Vaad	Yes
	Ferrandino	No
	Pommer	No

Final YES: 9 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS

02:47 PM -- Senate Bill 10-203


BILL:	SB10-203
TIME:	02:47:49 PM
MOVED:	Ferrandino
MOTION:	COW
SECONDED:	Pommer
		VOTE
	Fischer	Yes
	Gardner B.	No
	Hullinghorst	Yes
	Judd	Yes
	Kefalas	Yes
	Kerr J.	No
	Lambert	No
	Pace	Yes
	Riesberg	Yes
	Sonnenberg	No
	Vaad	No
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	Yes

Final YES: 8 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS

02:48 PM -- Senate Bill 10-202


BILL:	SB10-202
TIME:	02:48:47 PM
MOVED:	Fischer
MOTION:	COW
SECONDED:	Judd
		VOTE
	Fischer	Yes
	Gardner B.	No
	Hullinghorst	Yes
	Judd	Yes
	Kefalas	Yes
	Kerr J.	No
	Lambert	No
	Pace	Yes
	Riesberg	Yes
	Sonnenberg	No
	Vaad	No
	Ferrandino	Yes
	Pommer	Yes

Final YES: 8 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS